Fort de Chambly

Yesterday we met up with some old friends that were on vacation here from France. We spent the day with them on Wednesday also but they are leaving tonight so we were really happy to be able to see them and their kids again.

We decided to head to the “Fort de Chambly” which is about 50 min away…

Fort de Chambly

The first Fort was built in 1665 as one of the French outposts to protect New France against raids of the Iroquois. It was burned down by the Iroquois in 1703 and then reconstructed soon after. After the war against the Iroquois was over, it was ordered rebuilt in stone to protect again the English. In 1711 it was finished and though it was restored in the 1980’s this is the fort that stands today.

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Fort de Chambly

We walked around and watched the Rapids a bit… The fort stands on the Richelieu River which was know at the time as the Iroquois River.

Watching the Rapids with friends
The kids had fun looking for squirrels…

Squirrel hunters

In the courtyard, stones in the ground show where the original buildings were from the earlier structures and wood stump outline the old walls that were made of wood…

Courtyard

Here you see the line in the wall that shows the old wall before the restoration.

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The site has been excavated and here we see the original building and the Latrines. These latrines were actually quite luxurious as all the waste went right into the underground natural channels that led to the river. Quite a few artifacts were found in the latrines when they excavated the grounds. The theory is that when the English conquered the fort they threw many of the French items “out with the waste.”

Excacations/Latrines

This room was very dungeon like. It was where the gunpowder was kept.

Where the gun powder was stored

A painting in the Museum shows Montreal in the 1700’s

Montreal in the 18th Century

We went through the museum and at the end there was a place for the kids to try on Costumes and become Soldiers… they got dressed up and played out stories and headed up to the the turret… they would have stayed there for hours if they could…

Xavier said that he was not a soldier but was a captain. He here is looking out on the courtyard…

Captain Xavier

Walking the halls…

Capitain Xavier

Soldier Colin coming down from the turret…. he saved the fort from the Indians… see how proud he is 🙂

Colin

It turned out to be a beautiful day and we had a great time with friends and learning about Quebec history…

(here is the turret they played in… )

Fort de Chambly

Unschooling to University…

I am not there yet of course, but it is a question that has come up often and came up in one of the presentations last weekend also… so when I saw the following comment on my last post I thought it would be better to respond in a new post.

Bethany wrote:

I am getting ready to start homeschooling my daughter in the fall so I have been reading a lot about different methods of homeschooling and unschooling and all of that. I was interested to read your comments about unschooling but I admit I still have many hangups about the concept.

I expect my kids to go to college someday. How does unschooling prepare them for college? What is the transition like between free learning and the classroom learning that college requires? What about things that are required for them to know to get into college? I know when I was in traditional school I had subjects that I loved and subjects that I hated. All were necessary for me to get into college though (based on requirements of the college). I loved school and loved learning but given the option, I would have been more than happy to sit in my French and Music classes all day long and forget about Biology! I guess I’m still not “getting it” on how kids will be motivated to learn things they honestly have no interest in if it is left up to them?

And a second question. With the expectation of college in mind – standardized testing is unfortunately a necessary evil whether I agree with it or not. How does the unschooler prepare for that situation? Example: A person can learn about physics in action by watching a roller coaster, but can they sit down and do the calculations on the standardized test?

I really want to do some child-led learning with my daughter but I also want to make sure she is learning what she is “supposed” to be learning so she can achieve long-term educational goals.

Thank you for answering my questions (if you have the time!)


I think it is important to step away from the misconception that unschooling never has anything to do with school.

It is true that for a young child or even an adolescent, unschooling does look quite different and is very different. But, it does not mean that unschoolers never see a school setting or ever follow a curriculum. The difference is that they are the ones that choose it, and they do so because they are either interested or have a goal and use those resources as tools to achieve that further goal.

As an unschooling parent, our job is not to only teach our children, but it is to guide them to learn how to teach themselves. Instead of simply giving answers, we give more questions and we show them to figure things out. Books, tutors, curriculum and many other sources of information can all be part of an unschoolers life if that is what they wish or need.

So when/if  a child decides that they want to go to University, they will figure out what they need to achieve that goal and they will pursue what they will need in order to attain that goal even if they have to do it just to do it, and not only because they’re interested in it…  That is just part of the path sometimes.

As children grow up to become self-sufficient, they are able to follow their goals, and from what I have read and been told by university faculty and homeschooling families alike, is that children who come from homeschooling environments are more goal oriented, have a clearer view of what they want and how to attain it and waste less time than their formerly schooled peers when they are in the university setting.

As for being able to function in a class setting, you have to remember that these are teenagers or young adults, and they are there for a reason, to attend university or college. I can’t see how they would have trouble transitioning. I honestly think that it would be harder for high school students who often need to go through the transition of the teacher no longer reminding them to the to do their homework, having the freedom of going to class or not, or having full classes instead of classes in which discipline takes up half the time.

All of that being said, on a personal level, I don’t have any expectations of my children going to University, not that I don’t want them to be successful, whatever that may mean, but I believe that it is their choice and only their choice. I want my children to follow their dreams and be happy and if that means getting a degree then I’ll be there if they need me and help them reach their goals, but I also wouldn’t be upset if they wanted to do a trade that did not require a degree.

I graduated from University and in many ways regret it… yes,  it was interesting and I met some cool people, but it left me with debt,  a degree that I can’t do anything with and knowledge that I could have attained on my own. I went because it was expected of me and I wasted time , and saw many others waste their time because I honestly had no idea what I wanted to do… (being a cooking/picture taking/sewing/stay-at-home homeschooling mom wasn’t on the guidance counsellors list…

Going back to my last post, I have confidence that whatever goal…whatever path is chosen, they will find the way to accomplish what they set out for.

Confidence…

When talking with other people about unschooling, the idea of unschooling is often met with awe and and agreement, however, the practice is often regarded as just not a possibility… at least not for “their” children…

“If I didn’t sit my kid down they would do nothing all day”

“I let my kid do what he wanted for a whole week and he played video games all week.”

“My kids just don’t have the motivation to learn things they don’t have to learn.”

After years of being schooled ourselves we have been taught that being forced, or at the least being “taught”, is the only way to learn… We were imprinted with the idea that school was the place to learn, it was often boring and mundane, but it was necessary, and we had to be there or we would be nothing when we grew up…

and of course we always looked forward to summer vacation so that we could do “nothing”…

but did we do nothing?… did we learn “nothing”? or was it just that it looked like nothing because we enjoyed it and we were not learning in the traditional sense, and we didn’t have anything to “show”… at least not if someone is looking at it from a schooling perspective.

I am saddened to see that so many people just do not have confidence in children, some  seem to think that unschooled children are just some other species of kids that are always wanting to do projects or wanting to “school” themselves… and I agree that there are some that probably do, and as kids get older then it is even more probable, but honestly in our house it isn’t like that, and I know that in the homes of other young unschoolers I know, it isn’t like that either.

What often happens is that for those who have tried to unschool for a short period after having “schooled” is that they don’t give their children or themselves the adequate time to deschool. As Sandra Dodd sums up beautifully “Stop thinking schoolishly. Stop acting teacherishly. Stop talking about learning as though it’s separate from life.

A child may look like they are doing nothing but are they really? Are they honestly sitting there staring into space? and if they are, are they really thinking about “nothing”?

A child may play video games “all of the time” but are they really not learning anything? Do you really think that once the novelty wears off that they won’t move on, or if they don’t, isn’t it possible that their interest may stem into something else.

What does motivation look like? Isn’t it more likely that children are motivated but it is just not in what the parent thinks they should be motivated about. Can it be that when a child shows a bit of interest in something that the parent takes things over instead of helping to guide anf therefore the child loses the interest because it is not theirs anymore.

I truly have confidence in the fact that kids want to learn and they are always learning.  I have confidence that my kids will go into adulthood with all the knowledge they need to have. I think that everyone, homeschooling or not should have more confidence in children’s abilities and love of learning.

It saddens me to hear parents have so much lack of confidence in their children because though I have to agree that it is an ongoing struggle to put preconceived notions about education aside at times, it is the children who are losing the most.

The thing is, I don’t think that unschooling is for all families, but I do think that all children can be unschooled. I would rather hear that a family chooses not to unschool because of various reasons (lack of confidence in themselves, need to control, belief in traditional education etc) then to hear them blame their childrenby saying that they are just not able to learn by themselves.

consuming kids…

I just watched this on Youtube and I thought that it would be interesting to share…

(this is the first part of seven… follow the link… all of them are there and easy to find)

Watching this really makes me glad that we don’t have cable TV anymore… even though in Canada there are more regulations against advertising to kids, I was appalled at seeing all the commercials when we watched TV when we had it…. yes we watch movies and the boys see advertisements out of the home and even in the home, but I think they are in no way near being bombarded with adds as most kids are…

Avoiding artificial colourings and flavours also seems to give us an edge when it comes to advertising foods and restaurants… the boys are attracted to them of course but they know that cool packaging is just to sell the product, but it is the ingredient list that sells it for us if we are buying…

I think the ultimate goal as a parent is of course not to shelter kids from advertising (or from anything else for that matter) because really…  it will never work and most importantly it will leave them quite unprepared in the future… No, the goal is to teach them what adververtizing does and how it works and give them the skills now to make the right choices.

No more training wheels!

Xavier decided yesterday that he wanted to take the training wheels off his bike but Simon was not able to get to it at that moment… So today when he asked again we all went outside and got the wheels off and watched him try riding for the first time…

Simon held him a bit but was able to let go for a second or two the first time that they tried…

No more training wheels...

but after about 5 min there was no need to help anymore and in the rest of the time that we were out there he knew how to push off and how to turn…

No more training wheels...

He is so proud of himself!!

and it really goes for show…
when kids are ready to do something they will do it, and they will do it quickly!!

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